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Of all political views, anarchism is the most ill-represented. For more than thirty years, in over thirty books, Colin Ward patiently explained anarchist solutions to everything from vandalism to climate change—and celebrated unofficial uses of the landscape as commons, from holiday camps to squatter communities. Ward was an anarchist journalist and editor for almost sixty years, most famously editing the journal Anarchy. He was also a columnist for New Statesman, New Society, Freedom, and Town and Country Planning.


In Talking Anarchy, Colin Ward discusses with David Goodway the ups and downs of the anarchist movement during the last century, including the many famous characters who were anarchists, or associated with the movement, including Herbert Read, Alex Comfort, Marie Louise Berneri, Paul Goodman, Noam Chomsky, and George Orwell.


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Talking Anarchy
Colin Ward and David Goodway
First published 2003 by Five Leaves Publications
This edition © PM Press 2014
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This book has been made possible in part by a generous donation from the Anarchist Archives Project.
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Contents
Preface
Introduction
Talking Anarchy
P REFACE
The origins of this book and the way it was compiled are curious and likely to interest its readers, old and new. In April 2001 Colin Ward acceded to the badgering over many years of his friends Amedeo Bertolo and Rossella Di Leo, finally agreeing to be included in the series of book-length interviews their impressive imprint Elèuthera was publishing in Milan and to take his place alongside such luminaries of radical culture as Ivan Illich, Paulo Freire, Giancarlo De Carlo, Judith Malina, Enrico Baj, and Evelyn Fox Keller. The format was that the interviewer wrote a substantial introduction about the subject and appeared as the sole of author of the book. Colin asked me to fulfil this role for Conversazioni con Colin Ward, but I didn’t want to, being committed to other projects. He persisted saying it would involve me in little or no work! He explained that my essay "The Anarchism of Colin Ward," which I’d written for his festschrift, Richer Futures: Fashioning a New Politics (edited by Ken Worpole in 1999), could be reprinted unchanged as the introduction. This was definitely encouraging since it implied he approved of its content. Further and this was really surprising I wouldn’t need to travel from Yorkshire in the North of England to interview him at his home in East Anglia, because our discussions could be carried out just as well by letter.
And so we began work on the book. I started, I see, by sending him twenty-seven groups of questions, asking him in part about the kind of anarchist he was and his early years and his participation in the Freedom Press Group. The result was the nearest he ever came to autobiography and is the section of Talking Anarchy I consider especially valuable. After this I provided more questions, but just as often he would send answers to questions he had written himself and was also "answering." Perhaps he had originally believed the entire interview section could be constructed in this way, but I hung on in terrier fashion, insisting on a significant input if my name was to appear as the interviewer. At the outset he had worked out the minimum length acceptable in Milan: "You will see that the Di Carlo book is long and the Freire one short (and in a larger typeface) so they are obviously flexible about length" (2 May 2001). When we, particularly he, seemed to have exhausted the obvious topics, we had to work hard to make up the shortfall of words, turning to the section on current events which concludes the book, a real dialogue developing for the first time. Throughout he would type both questions and answers and retype as necessary, cutting and pasting in the old physical sense, with many trips to the photocopier in a local shop. (He was never to word-process or use a computer.)
Our agreed typescript was then dispatched to Amedeo and Rossella, who had a translator on hand to produce the Italian version. Throughout the process, though, I had worked hard to ensure we had a good text since my assumption was that publication in English would follow hard upon the appearance of Conversazioni con Colin Ward. I told Ross Bradshaw, who was reprinting several of Colin’s works as well as commissioning a new one, about Conversazioni and sent the manuscript, which he read excitedly and said he definitely wanted to publish as a Five Leaves title even before he had fully read it. Colin’s reaction was perplexing: he would not countenance an English edition in his lifetime. Colin was by then seventy-nine and tried to allay my disappointment, several times, telling me to "remember that it won’t be all that long when you have to introduce an English version for Ross Bradshaw!" (15 March 2003). Yet Ross’s response was that he was only interested in bringing the book out while Colin was still alive.
There matters rested for several months. Then, entirely unexpectedly, Colin telephoned to say he was allowing Five Leaves to publish. Why the change of mind? He had just been interviewed by a young researcher and had had some difficulty in recalling things (although in my own experience his long-term memory continued to be as meticulously detailed as ever); and I believe he felt that what Ross was to title Talking Anarchy would be a useful tool to fob off future interviewers.
Ross maintained his enthusiasm for the book, merely criticizing its "blandness," commenting on the number of times Colin and I had said "I agree." I told Ross I entirely concurred, but that my attempts to stir Colin up and to introduce a little controversy had been overruled and eliminated. An indication of his benign temperament comes (on p. 45 ) when he mentioned the "networks of anarchists in a city the size of London who could engage in, or stay aloof from, the activities of Freedom Press." I responded eagerly: "That’s an interesting remark! Who stayed aloof?" and he retorted: "I think it is inevitable rather than interesting." I realized he felt uncomfortable with Murray Bookchin and his style of anarchism and quoted what Murray (equally uncomprehending in reverse) had recently jested to me: "If an additional traffic light were installed in Trafalgar Square Colin would consider the Revolution had come." The most I was allowed appears on p. 111 :
Colin, you are such a generous person, always unwilling to be critical of fellow anarchists. Yet you imply that there are "things" which "divide" you from Murray. Is it simply a matter of high theory, of style and changing opinions, all of which you have touched upon, or do you consider more fundamental issues separate your respective, very distinctive conceptions of anarchism?
To which he countered:
It isn’t that I am kind or generous. It is simply that I take seriously the business of being an anarchist propagandist. Nothing makes us more ridiculous in the eyes of the world outside than the internal factional disputes some anarchists enjoy pursuing. I try to avoid them.
(For the record, I would observe that I also continue to admire Murray Bookchin greatly.)
Working with Colin on what became Talking Anarchy was an intense but delightful experience. Zach Blue of AK Press was to comment on what a pleasure it must have been to have interviewed him. I broke to it to Zach that we had never met during the process, but was much relieved that the text apparently reads like a genuine interview. It seems easily the work of mine most appreciated by readers. That is of course because it is essentially a book by the great, good and unfailingly lovable Colin Ward.
David Goodway
I NTRODUCTION
Colin Ward is one of the great radical figures of the past half-century, but his impact has been subterranean. His name is little mentioned by commentators and is scarcely known to the wider, intelligent public, even in his native Britain. A striking indication of his intellectual and institutional marginality is that he did not even possess a regular commercial publisher. In Richer Futures: Fashioning a New Politics (1999), a festschrift intended at least in part to remedy this unsatisfactory state of affairs, the editor, Ken Worpole, ably demonstrated the correspondence between Ward’s concerns and contemporary debates and problems. I suspect that Ward himself would have contended that this linkage can be made because of the commonsensical, realistic, necessary nature of anarchism as such (and not just his especial brand), if people could only see that, and its obvious relevance to the needs of the 21st century; and with this I myself would agree to a considerable extent. But equally there can be no gainsaying the very real originality of his oeuvre.
Colin Ward was born on 14 August 1924 in Wanstead, in suburban Essex, the son of Arnold Ward, a teacher, and Ruby Ward (née West), who had been a shorthand typist. He was educated at the County High School for Boys, Ilford (whose other principal claim to fame is that for thirty-eight years its English teacher was the father of the well-known poet and critic, Kathleen Raine, who was to write venomously and extremely snobbishly of him, the school, and Ilford in her first volume of autobiography, Farewell Happy Fields). Ward was an unsuccessful pupil and left school at fifteen.
Arnold Ward taught in elementary schools, eventually becoming a headmaster, in West Ham which, although a county borough outside the London County Council, contained the depths of poverty of Canning Town and Silvertown. He was a natural Labour supporter and the family car was much in demand on polling days. To grow up in a strongly Labour Party environment in the 1930s was far from stultifying as is attested by Colin Ward having both heard Emma Goldman speak in 1938, at the massive May Day rally in Hyde Park, and attended in April 1939 the "Festival of Music for the People" at which Benjamin Britten’s Ballad of Heroes, with a libretto by W.H. Auden and Randall Swingler, and conducted by Constant Lambert, saluted the fallen of the International Brigades at the Queen’s Hall. He als

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